His suffering was
to put away sin for us:.Hebrews
9:26 "For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of
the world. But now once in the end of the world has he appeared to
put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."
So that now we can confidently
know that nothing
ever can come between us and God, even
if we still sin:.1Peter
3:18 "For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for
the unjust, that he might bring us to God.(and
what had to occur for this door to God to open for us? We had to be made
righteous thanks to what Emmanuel
did and that was a gift:.Romans
5:17; a gift is that which comes without obligations
expected), being put to death in the
flesh, but quickened by the Spirit."
We are here to live life,
to experience both the good and the evil, hopefully learning as we go along
knew what the mind of the Father always was regarding Him:.John
29; hope that you feel this way regarding yourself too),
knew He was perfect in the Father's eyes:.Hebrews
5:9. If we are
Him, meaning we have His same nature of love in us, how do you think
the Father sees us?
-How are we to suffer with
8:17; Philippians 1:29; Phillipians
2:8; 1Peter 2:21; 1Peter
On Romans 8:17 see here.
On Philippians 1:29 see below
on word suffer.
On Phillipians 2:8 see here.
On 1Peter 2:21 click on that
On 1Peter 4:1 see here.
The word 'suffer' can mean
in a good or bad sense and therefore means 'experience' and much more:.1Peter
2:21,22. Here in the original, the word 'suffer' is 'to
have been affected by'. It can also mean 'to allow' as used in Mark
7:12; 10:14 and to 'put up with'.(a
in Mark 9:19.
Sometimes one suffers through
no fault of his own:.1Peter
2:20,21; 1Peter 5:8-10.
was already perfect,
does it say in Hebrews 2:10 that
God had to make Him perfect through sufferings?
is in us.(Philippians
1Peter 4:13; 2:20,21).and
we experience with others.(2Corinthians
we are empathic.(feel
for them). And when you get the
of this, it is powerful.
It is Him that became perfect
us the gift of His perfection. So now we can have the same empathy
for others He had and do things like He did:.John
We suffer in the bad sense
if we do things that cause unhappiness. If you make someone unhappy, then
it was an unpleasant experience for both.
If you suffer or experience
happy things, all well and good then:.1Peter
4:1 says He suffered for us. How?.Hebrews
suffering for us.Acts
And, what is this."suffering
in the flesh to cease from sin".mentioned
It is saying that Christ,
when on Earth in the person of Emmanuel, was the
one who suffered in the flesh and for us to arm ourselves with the
same mind as He has:.Philippians
And what is that? His
mind is for all to have a relationship
with the Father that He made possible.
Through this experience of
life's ups and downs that play their
part in us we become convinced what
is good for us and others and what is not. From here we can regulate
our lives with this knowledge, regulate them by the choices we make as
we meet daily circumstances.
If we now suffer as He did
it is in the same way He felt and now feels. Since He fulfilled all
suffering so we could 'suffer' as it were for others; that is, take their
pain upon us and heal them by love, that is, you have compassion for them
and realize the energy that is Christ can heal them through your love being
them, similar to what Bruno Groening
And He felt so strongly for
others and so should we:.John
3:16,17. And so should we learn to be like Him. We are to learn and
have not yet perhaps comprehended
His suffering as we should have.(*),
thinking that it meant only to tolerate or endure evil, injury, pain or
death. It means so much more that.applies
and tends to life, our daily living and our interactions with others.
the original has it, is."experienced
good and evil":.Hebrews
4:15. This is an example for us.
More on word 'suffer'.(*).(*).
are we to follow the example of suffering of Christ as is mentioned in
many scriptures? Or is this what this verse even means?
It does not make sense that
God would come here in the person of Emmanuel.(Philippians
2:7), the one who unfolded His
eternality becoming known as the Christ
after His resurrection, suffer what He did so that we could have a
relationship with the Everliving Infinite One of Intelligent Energy
and become a member of His
family and then inspire to be written that His type of suffering was
also for us. It was.all
Emmanuel, so our suffering doesn't mean suffering as in pain and anguish,
but rather means experience, experience enough to learn what's good and
what isn't good:.John
19:30. We are not to carry the type of anguish
living and dying Emmanuel went through.(Matthew
26:39; John 10:10),
but rather to
His example of high consciousness life:.1Timothy
4:12; John 20:31; 1Corinthians
God looks after things that
may come upon you unjustly:.2Timothy
3:12; 1Peter 2:20; 3:14,17;
1:6. Some things are painful, but such is learning at times:.Philippians
The Creator builds your confidence
in Him even if He has to engineer
circumstances to do it:.1Peter
8:28; Revelation 2:10. We
are here to experience life with Christ
we get the highest
reward we can get. What
does 'Christ in us' mean?
Living life in the mind alone.(knowledge).does
little good. Life will lack the reality necessary to cement character.
It is good to imagine how you would react and act in situations.(this
but then it is important to get out there and live
your life. In this way you are taking action upon what it is that you
have earlier learned and imagined. Don't sit around being a 'spiritual'
potato, slowly turning yourself into one of the 'frozen
chosen'. When you have interaction
with others, you are using and adding to your character, what
it is that is you.
There is no character development
in just taking in knowledge. If we learn from a fault we have, that is
good. You now have information and wisdom on that, but since we all act
out of the heart, it is Christ's nature of love in
you that is the hope of glory:.Colossians
It is this nature in you
that is the epitome
of character qualities and that is making possible the attainment
of your highest hopes in expressing the depth of character that you feel
in your heart.
things to be aware of.