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Stephen Jay Gould, Professor of Geology and Paleontology, Harvard University, Dr. David M. Raup, Curator of Geology, Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago, J. John Sepkoski, Jr, Department of Geological Sciences, University of Rochester, New York, Thomas J. M. Schopf, Department of Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago and Daniel S. Simberloff, Department of Biology, Florida State University, Tallahassee 'The shape of evolution: a comparison of real and random.clades',.Paleobiology, vol. 3 (1), 1977, pp. 34,35.."Paleontologists.(and evolutionary biologists in general).are famous for their facility in devising plausible stories; but they often forget that plausible stories need not be true."
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J. E. O'Rourke, 'Pragmatism versus materialism in stratigraphy',.American Journal of Science, vol. 276, January 1976, p.47.."The intelligent layman has long suspected circular reasoning in the use of rocks to date fossils and fossils to date rocks. The geologist has never bothered to think of a good reply, feeling that explanations are not worth the trouble as long as the work brings results. This is supposed to be hard headed pragmatism."
   p.53.."The procession of life was never witnessed, it is inferred. The vertical sequence of fossils is thought to represent a process because the enclosing rocks are interpreted as a process. The rocks do date.(*).the fossils, but the fossils date the rocks more accurately. Stratigraphy cannot avoid this kind of reasoning, if it insists on using only temporal.(limited by time; temporary).concepts, because circularity is inherent in the derivation of time scales."

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Dr. David M. Raup, Curator of Geology, Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago, 'Geology and creationism',.Field Museum of Natural History Bulletin, vol. 54 (3), March 1983, p. 21.."The charge that the construction of the geologic scale involves circularity has a certain amount of validity." 

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R. H. Rastall, Lecturer in Economic Geology, Cambridge University,.Encyclopedia Britannica.(britannica.com), 1956, vol. 10, p. 168.."It cannot be denied that from a strictly philosophical standpoint geologists are here arguing in a circle. The succession of organisms has been determined by a study of their remains embedded in the rocks and the relative ages of the rocks are determined by the remains of organisms that they contain."

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O.H. Schindewolf, 'Comments on some stratigraphic terms',.American Journal of Science, vol. 255, June 1957, p.395.."The only chronometric.(an exceptionally precise timepiece).scale applicable in geological history for the stratigraphic classification of rocks and for dating geological events exactly is furnished by the fossils. Owing to the.irreversibility of evolution.(this guy's a 'gung hoer' for evolution), they offer an unambiguous.time scale for relative age determinations and for world wide correlations of rocks."

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T. Säve-Söderbergh and I. U. Olsson, Institute of Egyptology and Institute of Physics respectively, University of Uppsala, Sweden, 'C14 dating and Egyptian chronology', in.Radiocarbon Variations and Absolute Chronology, Proceedings of the Twelfth Nobel Symposium, Ingrid U. Olsson, editor, Almqvist and Wiksell, Stockholm and John Wiley and Sons, Inc., New York, 1970, p. 35.."If a C14 date supports our theories, we put it in the main text. If it does not entirely contradict them, we put it in a footnote. And if it is completely 'out of date', we just drop it. Few archaeologists who have concerned themselves with absolute chronology.(precise timing).are innocent of having sometimes applied this method and many are still hesitant to accept C14 dates without reservations."

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Wakefield Dort, Jr., Department of Geology, The University of Kansas, 'Mummified seals of southern Victoria Land',.Antarctic Journal, Washington, vol. 6, September-October 1971, p. 211. "Radiocarbon analysis of specimens obtained from mummified seals in southern Victoria Land has yielded ages ranging from 615 to 4,600 years. However, antarctic sea water has significantly lower carbon-14 activity than that accepted as the world standard. Therefore, radiocarbon dating of marine organisms yields apparent ages that are older than true ages, but by an unknown and possibly variable amount. Therefore, the several radiocarbon ages determined for the mummified seal carcasses cannot be accepted as correct. For example, the apparent radiocarbon age of the Lake Bonney seal known to have been dead no more than a few weeks was determined to be 615 +/- 100 years. A seal freshly killed at McMurdo had an apparent age of 1,300 years."


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